Yep, wot they said.. ^^^^^
Just ask how the ministry is going, deflect questions!
Nick cave fan?
for purely informational purposes, i am planning a visit to a local kingdom hall.
it has been years since i've set foot in one and i need to know what the current terminology is so i don't stick out like a sore thumb.
what are the studying?
Yep, wot they said.. ^^^^^
Just ask how the ministry is going, deflect questions!
Nick cave fan?
this is my first post on here so bear with me.
currently i am still an active jw with serious questions about the jw org.
i was hesitant signing up but really need as much input from the people on this forum to get a clear understanding on things.
Well done for bravely taking the first step towards the rest of your life. There's some REALLY good advice, logic, and reasoning up there. I can add nothing but to say that I've been where you are, I'm still an active witness, but I no longer believe it's the 'truth'.
ALLOW YOURSELF TIME.
Research.
Have a listen to 'dogma debate' podcast, you'll soon discover that not only have we been fed very selective information over the years (all 'wordly' people are wicked amoral drunkards that would steal a bible to hit a baby with) but that atheists, other Christians, Muslims, have community and morals JUST as good, if not better, than JW's.
let me clarify, when i say aliens, i don't mean shiny helmeted spaceship dwelling anal probers.
(although i could be proved wrong).
if any alien lifeform was found on mars or another planet or even a comet, be it tiny bacteria or even some form of non carbon based life form, would that not destroy religions grip on mankind?
I think keyser soze hit the nail on the head with his simple statement. . Thanks keyser!
We're taught to accept scientists when they agree with whatever spin is put on some scripture or other, but ignore them as clearly part of Satan's world when they say ANYTHING contradictory to the bible. They'd simply be dismissed as being mistaken / lying.
Which makes me want to start another thread..........
let me clarify, when i say aliens, i don't mean shiny helmeted spaceship dwelling anal probers.
(although i could be proved wrong).
if any alien lifeform was found on mars or another planet or even a comet, be it tiny bacteria or even some form of non carbon based life form, would that not destroy religions grip on mankind?
Let me clarify, when I say aliens, I don't mean shiny helmeted spaceship dwelling anal probers. (although I could be proved wrong).
If ANY alien lifeform was found on Mars or another planet or even a comet, be it tiny bacteria or even some form of non carbon based life form, would that not DESTROY religions grip on mankind?
If it happened, how would they spin it? If it turned out that life has started on other planets as well as ours, then surely that negates every creation account and proves even to the most religious that evolution is fact?
It'd be interesting to see it happen....
follow the link\.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bqlczog202k.
prepare their graves.. .
Good job too, you can't unsee that s##t! I'lll be having twisted nightmares tonight... Thanks log con!
follow the link\.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bqlczog202k.
prepare their graves.. .
It's..... Indescribable.
follow the link\.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bqlczog202k.
prepare their graves.. .
Don't be curious. It's horrific. I'm surprised it's allowed on YouTube.
I feel dirty inside.
when i first started 'pioneering' at aged 19 i was encouraged by my so called spiritual leaders(elders) to do window cleaning.
which i did but could never make enough to support myself, so i had to take a second part time job which was also a cleaner at a primary school.
i was always broke and always poor.. what never really clicked with me until many years after leaving was that none of these so called elder spiritual guides did window cleaning or pioneered themselves.. in fact they did the very opposite and lived very full and rich lives.. one ran his own building firm and dealt with milt-million pound contracts, another had his own very successful double glazing business, another was some kind of mechanical engineer who worked for some big multi-national organisation, another was a chemical engineer, another owned and ran his own very busy printing firm.
Good for you dude, livin' the dream!
when i first started 'pioneering' at aged 19 i was encouraged by my so called spiritual leaders(elders) to do window cleaning.
which i did but could never make enough to support myself, so i had to take a second part time job which was also a cleaner at a primary school.
i was always broke and always poor.. what never really clicked with me until many years after leaving was that none of these so called elder spiritual guides did window cleaning or pioneered themselves.. in fact they did the very opposite and lived very full and rich lives.. one ran his own building firm and dealt with milt-million pound contracts, another had his own very successful double glazing business, another was some kind of mechanical engineer who worked for some big multi-national organisation, another was a chemical engineer, another owned and ran his own very busy printing firm.
Well said. Thumbs down matey, sorry for the unhappiness. It'ss oppression, simple as that. Tie you up with menial work, no hope of advancement unless you ignore the 'suggestions' to pioneer with your time instead of take on extra hours or pursue a career.
I wish I'd gone to college and uni. But no, glass smearer for DECADES. d'oh!
to be fair, I've built it into a decent business, but that would've been impossible if I'd been pioneering for any length of time.
Control, control, control...
in this article gerrit talks about his father in the first and last paragraphs, what he says about him and his hope for him goes against all that witnesses have preached about the worldly for the last 100 years... as i recall aren't all the worldly supposed to be destroyed and never have a hope of everlasting life like jw's are, and isn't that the purpose of the preaching work to baptize and warn the worldly of this???
if not why do jws even preach, or even become jws in the first place if all have a hope of everlasting life, jw and non-jw, are they releasing a little hint at new light to come???
or am i just missing or over analyzing something?.
Regarding this "directly killed by jehovah not getting a resurrection", it was brought out last week in the bible highlights that Korah, destroyed by Jehovah, according to the original language, went into hades (or is it sheol), anyway, either way it's the common grave of mankind, from which a resurrection IS possible.
The point being made was that we're not to judge, but trust jehovah's justice.